NASA adm , Charlie Bolden flew shuttle three times, OBVIOUSLY understands advantages of Shuttle capabilities over COTS capsules & how lack of shuttle capability is placing this country in danger!

TRYING TO DAMAGE USA National Security!!

AS Abbey indicated in his Washington examiner article, Lost in Space , we need & can have the shuttle like capabilities by modifying the X37.  However, the NASA adm ( a former shuttle cmdr), the potus, & the Congress either do not understand the importance of shuttle like capabilities OR are TRYING to DAMAGE the national security & the economy of this greatest country on Earth.

Below sums up the lack of logic in shuttle retirement!

Myth vs. Reality 

Sunday, April 13, 2014 Myth vs. Reality --Space dollars to Russia!!! 4. Cost of Shuttle Based System is Far Less Than the Constellation System or the Proposed Obama System This claim results from simple arithmetic. At a shuttle cost per mission of 500 million for the round trip transport of 6 astronauts, the per man cost of shuttle transport is 80 million. The system to be developed in the Constellation program or the Obama plan would duplicate the Russian Soyuz system. The Russians are to be paid 50 million per astronaut per trip. When the huge cost to develop a new U S system is added in, the resulting per seat cost would greatly exceed that of the existing shuttle system. Considering the cargo superiority of the shuttle makes the shuttle system even more cost effective, and it is in place now, no interruption, no space dollars spent overseas. Origin and Impetus for the Redirection Six years ago the Bush Administration unilaterally redirected the manned space program to (1) terminate the shuttle system and (2) to recreate the Apollo system, consisting of large boosters and a capsule and parachute crew transport system. If you accept the SAT positions why did NASA opt for the redirection and for and sustain the disassembly of a 200 billion dollar Space Shuttle System? One can only speculate but one reason for the redirection could have been a nostalgic desire within the NASA leadership and the Bush Administration to remake the Apollo experience. A second and perhaps more compelling reason could been a desire within NASA leadership to reclaim the prestige associated with creating a new massive heavy lift vehicle similar to the Apollo Saturn V. . The Obama Administration has basically endorsed the redirection by supporting creation of a new heavy lift vehicle, the return to a capsule and parachute system and allowing the termination of the more advanced shuttle system to continue. Pressure has apparently been put on pro shuttle astronauts to stifle it. Again one can only speculate as to the reason. Certainly any desire within NASA for new heavy lift vehicle would be ongoing.The fact that two presidents have sided with the heavy lift segment of NASA shows the power of this group. On the president's side it one could add - lack of vision, political pressure, and the effects of the anti shuttle propaganda. It makes one wonder if the SAT information reached him. Anti Shuttle Propaganda Part of the shuttle termination initiative has been a deceptive ongoing anti shuttle propaganda campaign by a cadre of " Space Experts"and the then NASA Administrator. The PBS Columbia Documentary is the most extensive example. In it the shuttles are labeled as "worn out, old technology, too risky, too costly, a mistake and not capable of supporting solar system exploration" none of which is true.The initiative has been very effective and after six years the anti shuttle rhetoric has become a media myth. Myth versus Reality Even with the approaching termination of the Public's 200 billion dollar shuttle system the nation still has a choice. Considering the facts above it is clear the reality is the shuttle based system for space exploration is the correct choice both technically and financially. . The press could make the difference. SAT has approached numerous media publications with our message and they have chosen to continue to support the myth. These include PBS, the NY Times ,Flight International, the Orange County Register, NASA News and the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics. It is my hope that you will read the pro shuttle information noted and will arrange for me to meet with you and your editor for a one hour question and answer session. It is your choice as to time place and agenda. It is vital to the nation that someone of your stature in the press investigates and acts on this information. I have an impressive list of engineer sources (Bob Thompson and three former Chief Engineers for a start) ready to answer any question you might have, people you would be honored, as I am, to associate with and people who are true space experts. By Interviewing these guys you would become the most space shuttle knowledgeable reporter on the planet. Without media support to get our message out the shuttle legacy will probably be similar to that of the Titanic and the Hindenberg, manned space travel will regress fifty years, the Public's money invested in the Space Shuttle System will have been wasted, and America's leadership in space will be forfeited. Allen Richardson SAT Spokesman  Sent from my iPad

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So YOU THINK IT CAN'T HAPPEN -- LOSS of CONTROL of EO

AS Abbey indicated in his Washington examiner article, Lost in Space , we need & can have the shuttle like capabilities by modifying the X37.  However, the NASA adm ( a former shuttle cmdr), the potus, & the Congress either do not understand the importance of shuttle like capabilities OR are TRYING to DAMAGE the national security & the economy of this greatest country on Earth.

Below sums up the lack of logic in shuttle retirement!

Myth vs. Reality 

Sunday, April 13, 2014 Myth vs. Reality --Space dollars to Russia!!! 4. Cost of Shuttle Based System is Far Less Than the Constellation System or the Proposed Obama System This claim results from simple arithmetic. At a shuttle cost per mission of 500 million for the round trip transport of 6 astronauts, the per man cost of shuttle transport is 80 million. The system to be developed in the Constellation program or the Obama plan would duplicate the Russian Soyuz system. The Russians are to be paid 50 million per astronaut per trip. When the huge cost to develop a new U S system is added in, the resulting per seat cost would greatly exceed that of the existing shuttle system. Considering the cargo superiority of the shuttle makes the shuttle system even more cost effective, and it is in place now, no interruption, no space dollars spent overseas. Origin and Impetus for the Redirection Six years ago the Bush Administration unilaterally redirected the manned space program to (1) terminate the shuttle system and (2) to recreate the Apollo system, consisting of large boosters and a capsule and parachute crew transport system. If you accept the SAT positions why did NASA opt for the redirection and for and sustain the disassembly of a 200 billion dollar Space Shuttle System? One can only speculate but one reason for the redirection could have been a nostalgic desire within the NASA leadership and the Bush Administration to remake the Apollo experience. A second and perhaps more compelling reason could been a desire within NASA leadership to reclaim the prestige associated with creating a new massive heavy lift vehicle similar to the Apollo Saturn V. . The Obama Administration has basically endorsed the redirection by supporting creation of a new heavy lift vehicle, the return to a capsule and parachute system and allowing the termination of the more advanced shuttle system to continue. Pressure has apparently been put on pro shuttle astronauts to stifle it. Again one can only speculate as to the reason. Certainly any desire within NASA for new heavy lift vehicle would be ongoing.The fact that two presidents have sided with the heavy lift segment of NASA shows the power of this group. On the president's side it one could add - lack of vision, political pressure, and the effects of the anti shuttle propaganda. It makes one wonder if the SAT information reached him. Anti Shuttle Propaganda Part of the shuttle termination initiative has been a deceptive ongoing anti shuttle propaganda campaign by a cadre of " Space Experts"and the then NASA Administrator. The PBS Columbia Documentary is the most extensive example. In it the shuttles are labeled as "worn out, old technology, too risky, too costly, a mistake and not capable of supporting solar system exploration" none of which is true.The initiative has been very effective and after six years the anti shuttle rhetoric has become a media myth. Myth versus Reality Even with the approaching termination of the Public's 200 billion dollar shuttle system the nation still has a choice. Considering the facts above it is clear the reality is the shuttle based system for space exploration is the correct choice both technically and financially. . The press could make the difference. SAT has approached numerous media publications with our message and they have chosen to continue to support the myth. These include PBS, the NY Times ,Flight International, the Orange County Register, NASA News and the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics. It is my hope that you will read the pro shuttle information noted and will arrange for me to meet with you and your editor for a one hour question and answer session. It is your choice as to time place and agenda. It is vital to the nation that someone of your stature in the press investigates and acts on this information. I have an impressive list of engineer sources (Bob Thompson and three former Chief Engineers for a start) ready to answer any question you might have, people you would be honored, as I am, to associate with and people who are true space experts. By Interviewing these guys you would become the most space shuttle knowledgeable reporter on the planet. Without media support to get our message out the shuttle legacy will probably be similar to that of the Titanic and the Hindenberg, manned space travel will regress fifty years, the Public's money invested in the Space Shuttle System will have been wasted, and America's leadership in space will be forfeited. Allen Richardson SAT Spokesman  Sent from my iPad

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Crazy stuff--- helping Iran, bringing in illegals & paying for care, not imp. Boeing x37C proposal, killing babies / selling parts!!!

Why do we keep paying Russians?

Subject: DESTRUCTION of AMERICA 'S SPACE CAPABILITIES ---WHY did NASA say no to X37 ? NEED Select Congressional Committee to Investigate!!!

WHY ???  Did NASA say no to making x37 a crewed vehicle?????

And those in Congress specializing in space are well aware that, had getting independent access to ISS for our nation really been Job #1 for NASA's leadership, then the Administration would have approved Boeing's proposal for the X-37B follow-on, the 5 crew X-37C. We are talking about a dependable spacecraft that can sit in orbit for over a year and NASA said no to making it a crewed vehicle. Why?  Jim Hillhouse of American Space

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/x-37b-expanded-capabilities-iss-missions/

Gross Misuse of Nation's Resources Shuttle & x37b
Termination of shuttle is a gross misuse of the Nation's resources. We must get the attention of Congress to get either the shuttle or an equivalent vehicle flying as soon as possible. To accomplish this we must educate the average person to the unique capabilities of this system. To this end we must get the benefits of this concept in the minds of the average American so they will demand the restart of this system/equivalent. Amazingly, we have a near equivalent, the x37b but the idiots we have in DC did not even consider the Boeing proposal--the x37b is operational----google x37 & read the details!!!!!! Boeing proposal ( x37c)---link below. The x37b is an amazing vehicle also!

The media has not done a story on what could be accomplished with the x37 system operated by DOD. The fact we are paying the russians 72 m per ride on soyuz is totally NUTS. To get this changed we need bloggers to get out the word so we can get a large number of people to contact the media constantly and demand that we use the vehicles we have & stop wasting money !!To get this done we need programing in every state on radio/tv bring out the benefits of the program. This will require each of you to constantly contact your local stations encouraging /demanding programs supporting this approach. It is up to you, we are Americans and can make this happen.Keeptheshuttleflyingc.blogspot.com

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/x-37b-expanded-capabilities-iss-missions/

Jim Hillhouse
March 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm · Reply
Well, after talking to Capitol Hill staffers, they too are suffering the same head issues I am. At least I'm in good company.

Rather than talk about what Congress will or will not pay for, let's review what Congress has done since 2010 on space funding.

Congress has, on its own and despite both opposition from the Administration and aggressive delaying tactics on the SLS and Orion programs from NASA, appropriated those amounts needed to keep both Orion and SLS on track. And just as it's done since 2010, Congress is going to do what it wants on HSF, which is fund Orion and SLS fully.

What Congress sees is not a justification for Commercial Crew. Far from it. Congressional staffers are well aware of the true progress of that program and no, none of those players are getting us to ISS anytime soon. That's largely NASA's fault since Congress has informed it that the CCP program needed to down-selected years ago to better focus limited resources for faster progress. But NASA's leadership didn't do that for political reasons. Loose Boeing and CCP looses luster and respectability. Loose Sierra Nevada and we working on three capsule programs. And if you want to make engineers working in GN&C or ELSS laugh, tell them that one of the CCP companies will be flying crews by 2016. Guffaws galore.

And those in Congress specializing in space are well aware that, had getting independent access to ISS for our nation really been Job #1 for NASA's leadership, then the Administration would have approved Boeing's proposal for the X-37B follow-on, the 5 crew X-37C. We are talking about a dependable spacecraft that can sit in orbit for over a year and NASA said no to making it a crewed vehicle. Why?

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/x-37b-expanded-capabilities-iss-missions/

What Congress does see is that if we had not gone through the nonsense of 2010, we would be much closer to our own capability to launch crews to ISS than we are today. Instead, Neil Armstrong was right–the Administration changed our nation's HSF course in secret, without consultation, and mucked things up.

When it comes to the Moon, Congress is funding $3.5B annually on the DDTE for Orion and SLS. Anything else will have to wait for a new Administration as there is zero trust right now in Congress of anything the White House or NASA HQ are selling about human spaceflight.

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The x37-b is a fine spacecraft.  However it is MUCH smaller than space Shuttle.  It was deliberately designed to not have the extra weight, life support, and astronaut flying capabilites.  So to add humans would take 5-7 years and significantly modify the design and add a lot of weight meaning much less cargo.  Having said that, It could with enough NASA money be modified to carry about 3, maybe four humans into Low Earth Orbit (LEO).  Right now NASA is spending $500 Million per year to entice 3 companies to provide commercial crew service to ISS.  So contrast that with the NASA budget of $2.8 Billion in 2014 to build the new rocket (Space Launch System SLS and Orion crew capsule) and capsule to go to an asteroid.  That is nearly SIX times more to build a new NASA rocket and capsule that does not go to ISS!!  Does that balance make sense.  Is LEO commercial transportation to ISS an important objective of NASA compared to what they are spending to a maybe futurestunt to return an asteroid rock by humans?

 

Frank Thomas Buzzard

What has happened to our capabilities is damaging to this country & needs a select congressional committee investigation!!!

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Read the links below & think About the impact to USA economy & national security if the USA loses control of EO ! THIS Is SERIOUS, write congress reps & media . Space http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/02/an-investment-strategy-for-national-security-space http://io9.com/what-would-happen-if-all-our-satellites-were-suddenly-d-1709006681 Sent from my iPad

Unbelievable, Crazy, NUTS, what has been done to shuttle like capability, BUT EVERYBODY & friends must write Congress/reps & all your local TV/radio stations. IT IS CRITICAL for Survival of Country!!!

ˌUNBELIEVABLE , incredible, beyond belief, inconceivable, unthinkable

We have a decorated Marine pilot, Shuttle CMDR ( flew shuttle three times) as NASA Administrator who has gone along with the adm's cancellation of Shuttle, go back to capsules at a very slow pace ( partially due to congress) & has an opportunity to return to a shuttle like vehicle ( Dream Chaser) or modified X37, but continues down the capsule path. After hundreds of experts have advised " do not return to capsules", and with his lifting body / runway lander experience, it is beyond belief that he continues down the capsule path.
One can only conclude, he is following the direction of the potus & does not have the best interest of the American Space program at heart.
Why doesn't he resign & speak up re advantages of the lifting body approach?

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PEOPLE, It is WAKE UP TIME. Contact your Senators & Representatives!

China will soon be in control! Liberals insane!

China rapidly becoming leading space faring nation resulting in a serious threat to USA! Call , email, tweet your reps in DC before too late!

THIS is something we must fix, asap, the X37 can be used to meet our needs.

Hillhouse ( American Space) stated----

And those in Congress specializing in space are well aware that, had getting independent access to ISS for our nation really been Job #1 for NASA's leadership, then the Administration would have approved Boeing's proposal for the X-37B follow-on, the 5 crew X-37C. We are talking about a dependable spacecraft that can sit in orbit for over a year and NASA said no to making it a crewed vehicle. Why?

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/x-37b-expanded-capabilities-iss-missions/

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China's Space Shuttle
The China National Space Administration (CNSA) can be expected to introduce a reusable space shuttle transportation system by 2020. The program is designed Project 921-3 and is convincing evidence that CNSA understands that at 21st century space program must be based on reusable space vehicles with capability to launch and return crew and cargo from spaced based facilities. With a space shuttle and spaced based infrastructure China will become the dominate space faring nation.

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